For the full (not condensed) chat log:
CLICK HERE
Attendance (ordered by chat appearance beginning after bold text):
Bach Zhaa (Ruling Chair)
(...And not to forget the undetected, other parked, non chatty, lurking, or stealthy citizens like Kare Bearz)
Highlighting and Editing by the always absent:
Zephyr Fox
Highlight Color Key:
Start of agenda topic
Chair Recognition/Point of Order and Speaker
Floor commentary/Debate and Speaker
Event Announcement
Recognized Announcement (presentation)
Spot lighted on subject/topic of discussion or yelding to a speaker
Web links
NOTE: Meeting minute highlighting is very loosely based on Robert's Rules of Order ( http://www.robertsrules.org/ )
- 6:03:24 Call to order/Halloween Build Site overview (Speaker: Bach Zhaa)
- 6:12:50 Brief floor discussion about Tarot Card play
- 6:14:56 Brief Combat announcement (Speaker: Iao Moonshadow)
The Condensed Highlighted log:
6:03:24 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Welcome everyone :) I suppose we can begin :D
6:04:00 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: welcome to the alpha Halloween area. around you are sites that we've all been building on.
6:04:06 PM VRT Astraenaut: they all look awesome
6:04:24 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: obviously Halloween is the theme.. sites still available too
6:04:54 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: we've been having fun
6:05:37 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: some folks are REALLY getting into it.. so its something special Im proud of us
6:05:55 PM VRT NurseMom: all the sites are looking awesome
6:06:49 PM VRT SnOwKuPP: its that time of year again
6:06:49 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: We are leading up to a parade through the areas, so Im also looking for mover builders to step up and make some floats..
6:07:19 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: can be ANYTHING halloween related.. (or not.. maybe just scary)
6:08:19 PM VRT Gremot: ok so a float of an IRS office
6:08:55 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Ill post more info about the times of the parade, but it will probably be 2 times on sunday Nov 1st with a trial run maybe over the weekend if enough ppl show up
6:10:07 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Im worried that too many folks will be busy right over halloween.. (or hungover sugar or otherwise lol)
6:12:08 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Suppose this is a good time to mention the Halloween Ball in Yellow world hosted by Apooka and Ozman on halloween
6:12:14 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Im sure that set to last all day
6:13:26 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: they're set to 9pm on sat, oct 31, so combat's contest (will some real prizes) is moved up to 8pm vrt that day
6:13:32 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: er..*they're meaning apooka and ozman
6:14:38 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: kk Yellow Halloween Ball, Saturday Oct 31 at 9pm VRT That means Combat! in Combat world will be moved up to 8pm that saturday.
6:14:38 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Thanks Iao
6:14:44 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: thanks
6:16:14 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: so who else is throwing a Halloween Party? I know there will be a big something for TGIF that weekend..
6:17:02 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: ...and if you are working on halloween areas that arent here, make sure to get me the teleports.. Ill post them here
6:17:02 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: ...and if you are working on halloween areas that arent here, make sure to get me the teleports.. Ill post them here
6:12:50 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: umm anyone ever bring a terot deck in AW? lol
6:12:56 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: thats an interesting thought lol
6:13:08 PM VRT Tiffany Lace: I do tarots Bach
6:13:20 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: how many cards in a standard deck? anyone know offhand
6:13:32 PM VRT Astraenaut: 78
6:13:56 PM VRT Tiffany Lace: yup 78
6:14:08 PM VRT Astraenaut: 22 majors and 56 minors
6:14:20 PM VRT Toxor: good idea
6:14:50 PM VRT Tiffany Lace: yes its fun
6:19:03 PM VRT Tiffany Lace: ill read your cards Bach hehehhe
6:19:03 PM VRT Tiffany Lace: ill read your cards Bach hehehhe
6:14:56 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: who won yesterday, btw?
6:15:14 PM VRT Kenneth: Who do you think?
6:15:20 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: mouxi, grell, kenneth / dm *tied for 3rd), and
6:15:26 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: yah, he was already in bragging hehe
6:15:26 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: forgot the 4th...oh Darxide
6:15:44 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: ah well things change and we'll see how long he shall reign ;-)
6:15:44 PM VRT Grell Sutcliffe: I'll get him next week.
6:15:50 PM VRT Toxor: I was 5th...out of 5 hehe
6:16:02 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: and toxor! yea hehehe
6:15:20 PM VRT Tiffany Lace: i see all tourist
6:15:26 PM VRT Dodgy: it's the lag TL
6:15:32 PM VRT Tiffany Lace: I have a new pc i guess thats why
6:16:50 PM VRT SaintlyMic: If someone unchecks rendering avatars will that affect the avatars in my build, for their experience?
6:17:32 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: no.. that only refers to us.. the actual ones, not objects
6:18:15 PM VRT Tiffany Lace: thanks Bach
6:18:15 PM VRT SaintlyMic: ok. thanks.
6:18:21 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: avatars as objects are just objects
6:20:45 PM VRT Tiffany Lace: ahhh thanks Bach i see now
6:20:45 PM VRT Tiffany Lace: ahhh thanks Bach i see now
6:18:45 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: kk moving on then.. umm
6:18:51 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: we has a bug
6:19:09 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Im sure most of you have heard.. some of us are affected
6:19:09 PM VRT Kenneth: Yellow Gazette's newest article talks about Halloween too.
6:19:15 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: late but thanks for the protective glasses, perra. lol...
6:19:27 PM VRT perra: welcome
6:19:33 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: oh...bugs....
6:20:03 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: I wanted to report that Rick posted that a fix would be coming out sometime this week
6:20:21 PM VRT NurseMom: :)
6:20:33 PM VRT Dodgy: wanted to?
6:20:33 PM VRT Ko Toff: Cool
6:20:39 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: :-X
6:20:39 PM VRT panne: that would be great
6:20:39 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: If you dont know, users that have XP or vista.. and some versions of Mac cant enter AW
6:20:51 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: we get an instant warning saying somethings corrupted.
6:20:51 PM VRT WOODY.: but can
6:20:51 PM VRT WOODY.: some can
6:20:51 PM VRT Karten: Bach - has anyone with Windows 10 had any problems?
6:20:57 PM VRT Gremot: . . . . well they can get in , but they have to change their PC clock to Oct3rd
6:21:03 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Rick: Please be aware that we are working on a fix for the problem of older operating systems like Windows XP and Vista as well as some versions of Wine. Please do not expect a new build until early next week. Sorry for the inconvenience.
6:21:03 PM VRT Ko Toff: I have XP and you have to set your clock back to Oct 1st to get in
6:21:15 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: not so far Karten
6:21:15 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: the work around messes up my lappy...
6:21:33 PM VRT panne: yes if i change my computer date, than google does not work anymore, unless i change the computer clock back to normal,this is a solution that i won't use forever
6:21:33 PM VRT Dodgy: and your emails
6:21:33 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: not that Ive heard but Ive been focusing on those that are missing still
6:21:33 PM VRT Karten: i have report of one, in an alternate AW type uni, that's why i am asking
6:21:39 PM VRT Kenneth: Windows 10 is fine as long as you have the right hardware specs.
6:21:45 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Right, for those of us that are here, we need to set the computer clock to back before oct 5th to enter AW at all
6:21:51 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: i've had some problems with w10 and aw, karten, but not the same problem as with xp/vista
6:21:51 PM VRT Gremot: . . . Karten ... the certificate issue was corrected by Microsoft in win7 forward
6:22:03 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: we can turn it back after we log on, but what a messed up workaround :\
6:22:09 PM VRT Karten: aye Gremot, thats why this one has me confused
6:22:21 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: change it back after you arive
6:22:21 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: i got a recent update for vista (they still service with sp2 pkg) but it didn't solve the aw browser issue. :(
6:22:21 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: I change it just for the minute that it takes to log on
6:22:21 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: lol dm
6:22:27 PM VRT DarkMatter: hehehehe
6:22:33 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: but...
6:22:33 PM VRT Toxor: changing the date can also reorder your telegrams I noticed so might have to scroll down to find a new one
6:22:39 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: i tried that trick but it got worse for me...so moved on from trying that
6:22:39 PM VRT Gremot: before win7, the settings to run the program anyway is there is cert error, doesnt work in xp and vista anyway
6:22:39 PM VRT Kenneth: And just so you all know, I heard from Strike Rapier on FB that it will cost AW either $100's or $1000's for a new certificate.
6:22:39 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: there are a number of ppl that may be still suffering
6:22:45 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: hammers work,,,
6:22:51 PM VRT panne: yes it"s only for version 6.2 , so aw universes using version 5.0 or older have no problems in starting up
6:22:51 PM VRT Bukka: and windows 7 will only work until 2020
6:22:51 PM VRT Dodgy: someone said $500 for 3 years
6:22:51 PM VRT Kenneth: yes
6:22:57 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: if you know someone thats missing and you have their email or a way to contact them, get the word out.
6:23:03 PM VRT Dodgy: AWI should do that
6:23:21 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: :-X
6:23:46 PM VRT GSK: If I recall, AWI doesn't do emails anymore because they were put onto a few email blacklists and are considered spam by some providers.
6:23:49 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: well, we are like 'poor mans vr' anyway.. they will lose like 20-30% of their customer base. Im hoping thats not acceptable
6:23:49 PM VRT Dodgy: oh dear :(
6:23:50 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: yeah.. they wont email
6:23:51 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: :\
6:23:51 PM VRT Kenneth: Bach, have you heard if this happens to other universes?
6:23:51 PM VRT Dodgy: well I told the VR3D fb page
6:23:51 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: wish they'd even post something on the website, for crying out loud >_>
6:23:51 PM VRT Dodgy: .. and there is wassisname in Belgium?
6:23:51 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: yes.. I think panne mentioned, any that are 6.0 and above
6:23:51 PM VRT Kenneth: wow ok
6:23:51 PM VRT Dodgy: the teacher with 23 machins
6:23:51 PM VRT Ko Toff: I am going to move to Linux Ubutu so the OS is not trying to upgrade me for cash every 3 years
6:23:51 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: peacecity is affected
6:23:51 PM VRT Kenneth: ah yes
6:23:52 PM VRT Kenneth: So they will lose a lot more than the little it costs I think.
6:23:52 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: so yes
6:24:00 PM VRT Karten: AWE too Bach?
6:24:09 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: not sure.. I dont think so
6:24:10 PM VRT Dodgy: AWE is ok
6:24:13 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: kk
6:24:17 PM VRT Karten: ah
6:24:22 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: but thats like a 5.3 uni
6:24:49 PM VRT Dodgy: splash screen should tell me?
6:24:49 PM VRT Dodgy: hold on
6:24:52 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: prob
6:24:57 PM VRT Karten: yea 5.0
6:25:04 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: k
6:25:17 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: anyways, get the word out
6:25:35 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: NM, you hear anything from Liz?
6:25:43 PM VRT Kenneth: Yep... just change the calendar to 2014 and you are set lol
6:25:44 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: anyone
6:25:45 PM VRT Dodgy: version 1121
6:25:53 PM VRT Kenneth: and stop the time server from adjusting itself
6:26:10 PM VRT Gremot: . . . soooooo, even though AW deploys an update to fix the MS issue, some people with XP & Vista that come around later on & don't know about this, will still have this . . they either have to set date to oct3rd or download the update
6:26:19 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: unfortunately some program folks are using need the current date...
6:26:38 PM VRT panne: it sound ridiculous that we should be morally obkiged to buy a new computer or so put another operating system on our computer
6:26:45 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: yah.. its going to be a tough fix
6:27:16 PM VRT Kenneth: panne, has nothing to do with morals, just a company.
6:28:11 PM VRT Ko Toff: If anyone here is already using Linux Ubutu or know someone who is please whisper to me or send me a telegram :-)
6:28:21 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Ko Toff: If anyone here is already using Linux Ubutu or know someone who is please whisper to me or send me a telegram :-)
6:28:43 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: some day
6:28:47 PM VRT Gremot: . . . panne, AW didnt cause this issue, MS did because it knew about this b4 its made WinXP end of life and only fixed the issue for Win7 forward
6:28:47 PM VRT panne: yes the probleme is : i don't know anything about linux mint or ubuntu
6:29:24 PM VRT panne: ok Gremot, i accept your explanation, idk so much about this matter
6:30:02 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: anyways, we dont know a lot about this bug but lets hope that it goes away soon.
6:30:19 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: and :P ...to all of you not affected lol
6:30:35 PM VRT Gremot: .... ok, i'm just trying to generalise it ... the tech part i sort of know about but can't explain it
6:30:43 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: please don't hold breath....
6:30:47 PM VRT Kenneth: I heard the certificate is from a company that provides proof that the download is from the AW server itself.
6:30:54 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: and oh.. Thanks to Kuma for coming up with the workaround :)
6:31:10 PM VRT Dodgy: very clever
6:31:17 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: she thinks about this program in ways I didnt know possible lol
6:31:37 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: its how Im here lol
6:31:42 PM VRT Kenneth: yes thanks Kuma :)
6:31:54 PM VRT Karten: aye Kenneth internet certificates and common and standard all across the internet
6:32:06 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: yea thanks Kuma
6:32:12 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: anyways, any questions?
6:32:46 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: so lets get off that then. wore me out lol
6:22:33 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: who are we missing still?
6:25:35 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: NM, you hear anything from Liz?
6:25:44 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: anyone
6:26:52 PM VRT Dodgy: Bach - you mean LizLiz?
6:26:58 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: yes
6:27:10 PM VRT Dodgy: oh,,, not seen her in a while
6:27:17 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: not see lizliz for awhile, not even on the facebookie
6:27:17 PM VRT Dodgy: she uses fb?
6:27:17 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Im hearing she's ok but has other computer problems unrelated
6:27:41 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: good to hear :)
6:27:41 PM VRT Tree Saw: i have liz liz's home phone number
6:28:01 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: well, not good she has problems but that shes ok lol
6:28:03 PM VRT Tree Saw: i could attempt a ring a ling later when im not predisposed
6:28:41 PM VRT NurseMom: she called me just last friday and said she having computer issues and that she was ok...
6:33:56 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: and as you saw posted before.. the new edition of the Yellow Gazette came out :)
6:34:14 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: http://www.pbwhite.id.au/yellowg/ check it out
6:34:56 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: also, whats the status of winter world? anyone know?
6:35:16 PM VRT Gremot: is it closed for winter?
6:35:18 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: rut roh, another touchy subject :x
6:35:19 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: I mean, we were just there lol
6:36:04 PM VRT Kenneth: All I know is, Winter is open right now.
6:36:27 PM VRT Keshi: what is wrong with WInter now?
6:37:26 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: what we know is there was a registry issue. While its being worked out, chris changed a bunch of setting and rights. we are waiting for it to be sorted out
6:36:26 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: raise your hand whoever has issues seeing awlife.org
6:35:48 PM VRT DarkMatter: awlife isn't working for everybody
6:37:03 PM VRT Kenneth: awlife.org loads fine here, but takes a few seconds.
6:37:34 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: aw life works for me
6:37:49 PM VRT Dodgy: AWLife is ok here
6:38:28 PM VRT Dodgy: AW life is er..... ??? and my AW is GSK
6:38:41 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Maxpoly is awlife
6:38:42 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: awlife is maxpoly
6:38:52 PM VRT GSK: AWLife is MaxPoly's
6:38:55 PM VRT Kenneth: Is awlife mostly for Winter world?
6:39:17 PM VRT DarkMatter: awlife is where the radio stations are hosted
6:39:20 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: is for all aw too
6:39:32 PM VRT panne: awlife has for instance as an advantage that you can add pictures of your event, and this appears automatically on the events page of awlife
6:39:57 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: it was a good place to store pictures that Max was offering was very cool and a nice resource, but some ppl have had problems opening it.
6:39:58 PM VRT Tree Saw: ty DM thats cool too Panne
6:40:24 PM VRT Keshi: they should let max know directly
6:40:37 PM VRT panne: awlife works better with google chome, with internet explorer the presentation is less good
6:40:40 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: thats different than winter world, but it was used in there a lot
6:40:54 PM VRT Kenneth: ok
6:41:06 PM VRT GSK: Well, no one should be using internet explorer anyway.
6:41:34 PM VRT Dodgy: GSK - why is that?
6:41:50 PM VRT GSK: IE isn't being developed anymore.
6:41:59 PM VRT Kenneth: I use Firefox
6:42:06 PM VRT Dodgy: oh right - I don't use it so didn't know
6:42:09 PM VRT panne: yes i saw that the radio stations dont work anymore, but maybe it has to do with the fact that i need to change my computer date to log in
6:42:15 PM VRT Dodgy: Firefox here too
6:42:17 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: hey GSK you have anything you want to say this time? :)
6:42:32 PM VRT Tree Saw: well i have google anyway but still wanted to run IE
6:42:44 PM VRT Keshi: GSK i don't use IE but why should peopel not use it
6:42:51 PM VRT GSK: gimme a few minutes
6:43:16 PM VRT DarkMatter: i use binoculars...
6:43:23 PM VRT GSK: IE is obsolete.
6:43:24 PM VRT Dodgy: Bach - any news on Josh / Mel?
6:43:27 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: just outdated with no more development. kinda the same reason you shouldnt use XP ...but that doesnt make it terrible
6:43:41 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: nah havent heard anything
6:43:44 PM VRT Dodgy: kk
6:43:48 PM VRT Kenneth: Windows 10 browser is not IE and isn't that great I heard.
6:44:04 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: its not that great, kenneth
6:44:07 PM VRT SnOwKuPP: I don't want it and don't haveit
6:44:31 PM VRT SaintlyMic: The Windows 10 browser is Microsoft Edge.
6:44:33 PM VRT GSK: Edge is far far better than IE from a developer standpoint. it's easy to develop for Edge because it supports standards
6:44:49 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: i suppose, but it still needs work lol
6:44:55 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: lots of work...
6:45:35 PM VRT Tree Saw: thanks to Kuma : D
6:45:06 PM VRT GSK: alright, ready when you are Bach. My cat needed some attention :P
6:45:39 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: GSK has a few things he wants to announce take it away GSK
6:45:54 PM VRT GSK: Hey everyone.
6:46:27 PM VRT GSK: First off, there's a special Halloween edition of Deal or No Deal this Friday at 7:00pm VRT in Aurora.
6:47:33 PM VRT GSK: Second, I wanted to address some of the problems people have been having with MyAW.
6:48:01 PM VRT GSK: Some of you have been having issues with logging in or purchasing free or paid items from the PTZ Shop
6:48:42 PM VRT GSK: I don't have any solutions for these problems today, but rest assured I am working to fix them and I hope to have these features working again by the end of this week.
6:49:26 PM VRT GSK: Well, that concludes my announcements for today.
6:49:31 PM VRT TenYearsGone: Are people actually purchasing Supercharger, GSK?
6:49:37 PM VRT GSK: Yea, a few have.
6:49:57 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Thanks GSK awesome
6:50:16 PM VRT TenYearsGone: Ok, Phase 2 is the downtown and retail set, and it is proving to be a much larger set of buildings
6:50:23 PM VRT panne: there is another bug: myaw shows 100 members , but if you count them, there were only 86 , and now maybe already 95 , but anyway , i appreciate the gift for the 100th member
6:50:46 PM VRT GSK: Well, internal counts now show slightly over 100 members.
6:51:05 PM VRT GSK: I don't know why it shows less than 100 for you, but it's definitely not less than 100 ;)
6:52:03 PM VRT panne: yes because it was first 80 and then suddenly 100 , i was so surprised, so i started to count
6:52:29 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: thats is awesome tho.. that a hundred are signed on very cool
6:53:04 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: If anyone is confused what we are refering to, its AW new social media site http://network.myaw.us/
6:54:00 PM VRT panne: anyway GSK congratulations with your 100th members
6:54:15 PM VRT GSK: thanks :)
6:54:49 PM VRT GSK: People who I don't know personally, I do verify.
6:55:14 PM VRT GSK: A few months ago, one account was disabled because it didn't match an existing citizenship
6:55:14 PM VRT GSK: A few months ago, one account was disabled because it didn't match an existing citizenship
6:53:26 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: yeah I guess we are Back to the Future now :D
6:53:42 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: anyone done a delorean mover? lol
6:54:33 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: I guess in the movie Back to the Future.. Marty McFly goes into the future to Oct 21 2015 we're here lol
6:55:50 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Charlies started an event to celebrate Wednesday, October 21at 7:30pm Aw 1644.93S 4798.06E 0.25a 2
6:56:13 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Thats in SW city, and I trhink thats a build that SW Chris did..
6:57:08 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: its the clocktower plaza.. so seems like a cool place to see ehat the future looks like.. lol or something
6:57:18 PM VRT TenYearsGone: I think it's part of East Ending, part of the Scarabian Republic, but not SW City proper
6:57:27 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: kk
6:57:32 PM VRT Kenneth: You know, it never seems like the future when looking back at Sci-Fi films, but when you think about it, in 1985 we never would have imagined we would have cell phones or computers this good and other things.
6:58:38 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: lets see.. umm
6:59:37 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: always tough to start this convo.. umm building and teaching and how we learn best.. etc etc
7:00:05 PM VRT TenYearsGone: Phase 2 = I am working on it.... Likely going to be 24 buildings... I guess... I suppose, I surmise
7:00:13 PM VRT Kenneth: Everyone learns differently
7:00:26 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: exactly..
7:00:39 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: and scheduling and topics
7:01:24 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: I want everyone to be as good as they want tho.. I mean there is no reason everyone here couldnt know as much as me.. but how do we do it?
7:01:47 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: vedios, keep being brought up
7:01:50 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: videos
7:01:59 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: would that work?
7:02:01 PM VRT Astraenaut: i like the idea of videos
7:02:08 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: bunch of youtubes
7:02:11 PM VRT TenYearsGone: drone videos?
7:02:13 PM VRT Astraenaut: especially for people who can't make in-game lessons
7:02:20 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: but Id also want more hands on stuff too..
7:02:21 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: how to teach others to have creative fun using the program...
7:02:40 PM VRT Toxor: I liked the group workshop settings like with the timers class
7:02:42 PM VRT Kenneth: Learning is a personal achievement and it takes spirit, will power, and time to achieve it.
7:03:02 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: I mean, not all questiosn can be answered in a vid and some techniques are complex and cross many lines
7:03:03 PM VRT Astraenaut: we could do workshops again, but provide YouTube videos to reference/for people who miss them
7:03:34 PM VRT Chumana: i like that idea, Astra
7:03:39 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: vids are good for basics...in compliment to hands on training..
7:03:41 PM VRT Keshi: sometimes people just don't ask forhelp
7:04:19 PM VRT Dodgy: I have 43 vids on youtube, but not all are AW
7:04:19 PM VRT Kenneth: There used to be University worlds inside the AW universe for advanced learning.
7:04:31 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: well, it isnt the account thats a problem.. its where do we start and how do we break down the commands..
7:04:35 PM VRT Kenneth: But they were all put together with AWSchool I guess
7:04:37 PM VRT CoLor: depends most is what you are trying to teach.
7:04:48 PM VRT CoLor: differetnt hings require other types of learning
7:04:49 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: least thats how it worked well when taught a high school class to use aw platform..
7:05:07 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: Ive tried videos.. the problem for me is I get advanced really fast and they end up to be 20 minutes long lol
7:05:14 PM VRT Gremot: with youtubes, just remember used with media command its url=www.youtube.com/watch?v=[number] . . . and used with web command its url=www.youtube.com/embed/[number] . . . url=www.youtube.com/v/[number] doesnt work anymore
7:05:37 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: so I need help lol
7:06:07 PM VRT Kenneth: I learn by example with the examples in Help.
7:06:18 PM VRT Kenneth: for commands anyway
7:06:49 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: so umm ...that being said, I want to start something real... something that anyone can feel welcome and we can still learn until such time that videos are being done
7:07:09 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: sooo.... wednesdays?
7:07:38 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: every wednesday.. or twice a month, some of us get together and go over something
7:07:49 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: we start simple
7:08:12 PM VRT Kenneth: Ask people what they know and get oriented to who you are teaching.
7:08:14 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: this way we can see how the videos might be and where we think we need the most help
7:08:24 PM VRT Myrth: Are your old blogs archived anywhere Bach? SW City's Builder Academy links to a post on centering AWGs that's broken. X_X
7:08:26 PM VRT CoLor: probably the most important thing is one on one teaching and taking it one step at a time
7:09:04 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: thats in the awg yard here in alpha.. 7940.47S 1512.50E -0.01a 0 that tutorial. Straight ahead
7:09:05 PM VRT Keshi: what happen to aw swchool teaching building and command usage ?
7:09:20 PM VRT TenYearsGone: do not "stree the fine points" until you have covered the basics... absolutely
7:09:23 PM VRT CoLor: For newbies I think the faster you get them building the more chance we have they will stay. But keep it simple
7:09:59 PM VRT CoLor: I think expecting them to read is not as successful for learning. then getting them to actually copy even one thing
7:10:34 PM VRT Kenneth: Color helped me learn to build my first house.. the first week I used AW.
7:10:39 PM VRT Keshi: once3 i learned to copy paste i was at advanced commands 2 weeks later
7:10:40 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: I agree color and yes.. thats why I need your help. I love building but like i tend to push the hard stuff too soon. I scare ppl off then. :(
7:10:42 PM VRT CoLor: its the act of doing the building that sparks that creative lure that keeps them
7:10:56 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: folks have little patience to read simple game mechanics or rules. more into jump in and do something straight out...
7:11:01 PM VRT Astraenaut: it's hard to do when everyone is on a different level
7:11:20 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: exactly.. but we need to get thru this.. there is a way
7:32:25 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: anyways, wednesday evening here, we will start at least talking building
7:32:46 PM VRT panne: at what time and where ?
7:32:48 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: actually in awschool.. but we can go anywhere after that
7:33:12 PM VRT Kenneth: Will an AWSchool Teacher be there?
7:34:04 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: umm.. I usually have to go do something at 8pm my time.. so 6:30 pm my time which is like 9:30 VRT.. but I would be happy and willing to have 2 meetings on this every wed
7:34:47 PM VRT Kenneth: And don't forget, clocks change Nov. 2 so that means 1 hour change in VRT difference.
7:35:22 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: kk then say we do a late one? that way stanly could make it
7:36:15 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: donno.. but I want to try this
7:40:08 PM VRT Kenneth: Bach, so when is the time on Wednesdays again?
7:41:17 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: 9:30 VRT
7:41:30 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: that should be 6:30 central time
7:41:23 PM VRT Kenneth: ok thanks, will write it down
7:41:30 PM VRT CoLor: Is there outside advertising for thta game?
7:41:31 PM VRT Kenneth: post in the FB group too
7:41:33 PM VRT Kenneth: you can I mean
7:41:43 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: yep
7:43:55 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: which is the 21st so maybe we'll do something back to the future related
7:44:48 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: yeah.. I wanted to run the idea by you guys first
7:45:02 PM VRT Kenneth: sounds like a great idea
7:45:03 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: so Ill post something today there
7:45:09 PM VRT Kenneth: my as well try at least
7:45:22 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: well, its all easy lol
7:39:18 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: anyways, to keep the convo going, Regular events are still going strong.. Combat! saturdays was mentioned before.. very cool.. also, TGIF this weekend will be at Darkmatters Club called The Dark Night http://i.imgur.com/nwB8hB2.jpg
7:39:59 PM VRT Iao Moonshadow: yea, next week combat contest is at 9pm....oct 31 is at 8pm
7:46:51 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: anyways, what am I missing?
7:47:33 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: ..but seriously, DM made an awesome new club. Im looking forward to breaking it in on friday :)
7:48:44 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: anyone want a halloween site still.. talk to me or mel or ot and we can set you up
7:49:12 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: and umm mover builders out there, Im counting on you for floats for the parade
7:50:59 PM VRT NurseMom: Bach is there a place you have set up to build the movers?
7:51:01 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: this is true.. in a float and it would be too horrible probably donno :o
7:51:25 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: not yet.. Im thinking just over here on the edge of the lz area
7:51:38 PM VRT NurseMom: k just let me know where and i will start working on one
7:51:39 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: or your sites or teleport in..
7:51:44 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: kk
7:51:51 PM VRT NurseMom: no space on my site to build one
7:51:57 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: cant yet wrong privs lol
7:52:00 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: kk
7:52:03 PM VRT NurseMom: no worries
7:52:27 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: but yeah, we'll start right up front here
7:52:31 PM VRT NurseMom: okies
7:52:54 PM VRT SaintlyMic: Does anyone know if there are visible images to an "asset list"?
7:53:07 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: any questions about anything at all?
7:53:11 PM VRT Gremot: is way over due for cig break ... bbs
7:53:19 PM VRT NurseMom: hb Gremot
7:53:25 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: asset list? as in a PE?
7:53:37 PM VRT SaintlyMic: yes. for pe's.
7:53:53 PM VRT SaintlyMic: I remember seeing one, but I lost it.
7:54:04 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: http://www.awportals.com/opsearch/aw.php objects or textures on an OP are assets
7:54:14 PM VRT SaintlyMic: Thanks Bach.
7:54:42 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: there is a button here at the halloween LZ that when you click it, loads those resources in chat
7:55:08 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: so they wont get lost
7:55:50 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: what else hmm
7:56:28 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: I hear your still adding to your gallery Kenneth
7:56:35 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: hows that going?
7:57:22 PM VRT Kenneth: Bach yes....
7:57:24 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: historical teleports
7:57:39 PM VRT Kenneth: I just started the 1999 teleports, got 1995, 1996, and 1997 finished
7:57:50 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: sweet..
7:58:03 PM VRT Kenneth: After 1999 and got 2000 to do, although I may go onto 2001, we'll see.
7:58:16 PM VRT Kenneth: I don't want to get too new of builds though since people could be still building, etc.
7:58:48 PM VRT Kenneth: There's around 80 or 90 teleports in each dome
7:59:02 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: quite a collection
7:59:05 PM VRT Keshi: well folks i am being called to help someone enjoy and see you about
7:59:13 PM VRT Kenneth: Yeah, SG found almost all of them
7:59:19 PM VRT Kenneth: some by Mouxi and some by me
7:59:47 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: neat... :) best in the business ;D
8:00:23 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: I think thats all I had folks. Thanks for coming.. we had over 50 ppl at one point :)
8:00:40 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: making it official, meeting adjourned
8:01:10 PM VRT Bach Zhaa: much appreciated
ZF's post 2cent take it or leave it:
ZF's Related Snapshot Photos:
